What Kinal Says About Ve
by Angga · November 15, 2013

Interviewer (I) : Kinal
Kinal (K) : Yep
I : Which of the members you are closest with?
K : Uhm..Ve
I : And why is that?
K : Well, you see..I’m more of a happy go-lucky person. So, those who are reserved and sweet really complement my personality. Coincidentally, at the final audition, I met this one reserved anti-social girl sitting alone in a corner. I talked to her, introduced myself and we feel very connected just like that. So yeah, we are close friends now.
I : The first word you have in your mind if I said: “Ve”
K : Nice. She is sooo nice, seriously. Well, she does have an evil side of her, but as evil as she could be, it is still evilishly nice for me (laugh), seriously.
I : Can you elaborate more about how nice she is?
K : She’s..uhm.. she’s really protective. I mean, she always there to protect us, she never tired reminding us of things. Whenever I need some advices, she’s always there. Whenever we need something, if she does have the resource for it, she will give it. She always there when we need her the most.
I : What you hate the most from Ve?
K : I hate her when she starts to show her evil bitchy side, like, seriously. She changed her tone when she starts to do that.
I : And how’s that?
K : Like, “Ve, your clothes look nice,” and then she starts to say “Of course!” (TN: in a cruel bitchy tone) The problem is, Ve will usually just said “Yes?” (TN: in a shy demeanor). She only did that to me, I hate that bitchy side of her. And when I pointed the fact that she’s being a meanie, she usually said “Well, I AM Cruel!”. More than often I was shocked by her sudden change in demeanor.
I : (Laugh) What do you like the most from Ve?
K : I like her style the most. I mean, she has this feminine feature, but she never wore anything feminine (In everyday life). She’s really good at expressing herself. She’s so cool.
I : Things you do together with Ve the most?
K : Eating. You know, Ve is a big fan of Japanese food while I’m..not really into it since the time Ve fell in love with this one Japanese restaurant, and we ate nowhere but at that place for the whole week. I was okay at first but as it went by, I was jaded with the food since Ve always order the exact same menu course and I was like..ugh… Yeah, but that’s Ve. She always did that if she feels the “click” with something.
I : Tell me a story about Ve that no one else know except for you.
K : [Hesitating]
I : Well, you are her close friend, right? You must’ve know something. Now, tell me. Just give me one.
K : One…Oh dear..this is hard..
I : [laugh]
K : Well, she’s an avid perfume collector. She has tons of perfume in her collection. She always changed her perfume whenever she went out. It is no longer a secret that JKT48 members always shares everything, you understand what I meant, right? We all smells the same due to we shared the same perfume. So let’s say, I bought a perfume, and we will shared it until not even a single drop left. Now Ve…, she’s a little bit…say…different. Since she’s a descendant of… let us just stop it here, please? (laugh)
I : (laugh)
-Scene Cut-
K : Her perfumes were all high class one BUT she always said “I don’t want to bring my perfume to the theater, No.Way.” and when I asked her why, she answered it with “I don’t want my precious perfume to not having a single drop left after just a few days.” Stingy Ve is stingy. I mean, we (JKT48 members) always share! While she, she always hide her things. Not many people know that side of Ve. She’s a little bit stingy when it comes to our ritual of sharing things. (laugh)
I : One word that can symbolize Ve
K : You’ve asked that
I : Nope
K : For real?
I : [laugh] Yeah
K : Hmm… Mom
I : [laugh]
K : Yeah, for real. She really feels like a mom it surreal, like a movie Mom or something.
I : And what is that supposed to mean? her nature?
K : Not really, she’s actually pretty spoiled. People always got the wrong image of her nature, but the more they know her, the more they will realize that she’s pretty much spoiled. But she’s really reserved and without us even realizing it, she’s really took a good care of us. She’s really wise, a lot more wiser than me. I’m the Captain, but I simply can’t do it without Ve by my side. She teach me a lot. I learn a lot from her. So yeah, like a Mom.
取材 (I) : では、キナルさん。。。
キナル (K) : はい。
I : 一番親しいメンバーは?
K : ふむ。。。フェですね。
I : それはなぜでしょうか?
K : それはですね..あたしって、けっこう楽観的なんです。なので、ちょっと控えめで大人しいタイプの人は相性がいいんですよ。偶然に、
オーディションの最終審査にある控えめで内気な子に出会って。。。彼女は一人で隅っこに座ってました。彼女に喋りかけて、自己紹介して。。
それがきっかけとなりました。それでまぁ、今は親友ですね。
I : 「フェ」と言ったら、真っ先に思い浮かぶことは?
K : 優しい。本っっ当に優しいですよ。まぁちょっと意地悪いところがあるけど、どんな意地悪してもまだ優しいんです(笑)本当です。
I : 例えば、どういうところが優しいですか?
K : フェは。。。守ってくれるんです。みんなを見守っていて。。。いつも大事なことを注意してくれる。相談したい時はいつもいてくれる。
何かが足りない時に、可能なかぎりくれるんです。必要な時に、いつもいますね。
I : フェの一番嫌いなところは?
K : 意地悪なところを見せる時は嫌いです。そういう時に口調が変りますし。
I : どういうこと?
K : 例えば「フェ、洋服いい感じだね」って言ったら「当たり前じゃん。」って言ってくるし。問題は、通常フェの返事は「はい?」 (注釈:大人しい言い方で).
意地悪い口調は私にしかしない。そういうところが嫌いですね。そしてそれを指摘したら、彼女は「あたし、ひどい女だから!」って言うし。
こういう急な態度の変化にいつも驚かされます。
I : (笑) フェの一番好きなところは?
K : 一番好きなのはスタイルですね。すごく女性らしいのに、普段の生活で女性らしい洋服を一切着ないですんです。自分を表現するの本当に上手だし、かっこいい。
I : 一緒によくすることは?
K : 食べる。フェは和食が大好きなんですけど、私は。。。ちょっと前、フェがある日本料理屋さんにはまっていて、一週間ずっとそこでしか食べなくて。。。
最初は平気だったけど、段々飽きてきて。。。フェはいっつも同じメニュー頼むし、「おぇ。。。」ってなったけど。。それはフェですね。
何かにはまったらいつもそうなります。
I : キナルさんしか知らないフェの話を聞かせて下さい。
K : (ためらう)
I : 親友じゃないですか、絶対何か知っていますよね。一つだけでいいですよ。
K : 一つ…いやぁ..難しい..
I : (笑)
K : フェはですね、香水を集めるのが大好きなんです。すごくたくさん持っています。出かけるたびに違うのをつけている。。
JKTのメンバーは何でもシェアするのが周知の事実じゃないですか。みんな同じ香水つけているから同じ匂いがする。
だから例えば香水を買ったら最後の一滴がなくなるまでみんなでシェアするんです。でもフェの場合。。。彼女はちょっと。。。
「違う」ってことにしておきましょう。彼女の家庭は。。。いや、ここで止めましょう、お願い(笑)
I : (笑)
-シーンが変る-
K : フェの香水は全部高級ですが、「絶対劇場に持って行かない。絶対に」っていつも言っています。
理由を聞いたら、「大事な香水がたった数日で最後の一滴まで使われるなんてイヤ!」って。ケチですね。
みんないつも何でもシェアするのに!でもフェは自分の物をいつも隠している。この一面はあまり知られていないですが、
シェアに関してはちょっとケチですね(笑)
I : フェを一言で表すと?
K : え、さっきも聞いたじゃないですか?
I : いいえ、聞いてませんけど。。
K : 本当に?
I : (笑)そうですよ。
K : ふむ。。。ママ。
I : (笑)
K : そう、本当にママみたいですよ。映画にいそうなお母さんのような感じがする。
I : それはどういう意味?性格?
K : そうでもない、けっこう甘えん坊ですからね。みんなが彼女の性格をいつも勘違いしているけど、知れば知るほど大きい甘えん坊だと気づきます。
でもかなり控えめですし、私たちが気づかない内にいつも面倒を見てくれています。
賢くて、大人っぽいです。私よりもずっと。私はキャプテンしていますけど、フェがいないとダメなんです。彼女からいろんなことを学びました。。
うん、やっぱりお母さんみたいですね。
Japanese Translation by Wotaliano
Wotalianoさん、
フェイの意外な一面が知れて面白かったです!
Wow, never thought that a shy girl like her is actually like that. Even for her using “Lu-Gue” words ever crossed my mind, really. She’s a normal girl after all. Interesting. Haha
I’m curious what Kinal going to say when she said “ve descendant of ……..”
Let’s play a games.. fill in the blank above!
My guess the word is “Ningrat”, it means royal family.
Kinal actually gonna say Chinese. It’s a stereotype here in Indonesia, that chinese descendants are stingy.
Oh yeah.. that makes sense.
Ve made me love more…
. even the evilish side of Ve counts as a polite & good manner for a normal human being like Kinal.. really she never gets angry type girl 
she’s not that kind of anti-social, she’s just introverted, we’re just listening, just observing, and we can’t stand small talk and you know as Introverts sometimes we need a quality time/refuel energy time which means being alone for a while, and we are very privat individual at some points …, people sometimes misinterpret these anomalies as anti-social and shyness.. ,
btw when I read this article I was like ” finally I found the carbon copy of my personality ” haha I think wota who always need “waro” would be so dissapointed of our personalities though lol
Kinal, almost racists?
Dalam wawancara tidak ada kata-kata rasis atau yang almost racists , hanya anda yang berfikiran seperti itu. (cermatilah apa yang dikatakannya, jangan berfikiran sempit). berhati-hatilah dalam berkomentar.
bahkan komentar di youtube baik-baik saja.
In the interview there are no words that almost racist or racists, just like you who were thinking it. (Observe what he says, do not be narrow minded). be careful in commenting.
even comment on youtube fine.
jangan berfikir sempit!!! ,ngomong2 jagain toko U
I am using [ ? ] at the end of my sentence, that mean a QUESTION MARK.
For some species who can’t see nor understand it.
Seriously,i can’t imagine Ve say something with “Bitchy Tone” like that
Because,in my eye,she is Princess like type ,hahahaha
How dare you Captain!!!
#OpMalaysia its more fun than….
The sweetest sentences I have ever heard when kinal said “I’m the Captain, but I simply can’t do it without Ve by my side”. Yeah, she couldn’t do it without Ve, without ve …
That’s very touch my heart
yes i think Kinal was going to say chinese, we’ll Ve is Indonesian chinese and i’m also Indonesian chinese and I don’t mind if she said stingy, it’s like the truth. you should experience negotiating with enci2 or om2 at glodok or mangga dua area. LOL… but the best fitted words is maybe not stingy but mabye “calculative or ?? (anyone wants to fill the words)”
Just found it….
The words in en translated not always perfectly ‘correct’,
We must known/understanding that’s her (kinal) word says was in her definition (woman/girl terms)…
So you must feel like girl to understand what’s the real meaning of her ‘words’….
Kinal not says something racists words…. it’s just (women talks), which only womens definitely understand it…
Stingy people could come from any races.. wkwk. Their friendship is so moving, they’re pretty much antithesis to each other but ended up as closest friends… so deep