Trainees’ Boku no Taiyou Report June 2nd 2013

Japarta

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26 Responses

  1. HERMAN says:

    Very well done! Keep performing with such an admirable persistence, and in no time they’ll exceed Team J’s popularity. Or…….have they?

  2. Tokyo Pop says:

    とても面白かったです!
    フィニは英語だめなんだ。英語上手いのは、ステラ、ソニャ、フェイあたりでしたね。レナはもちろんですけど。そうそうアーチャンも英語頑張るってしきりに言ってますね。
    フィニも先行き、JKT48が”Go international”になる時の主力メンバーなんだから、そんなこと言ってないで頑張って勉強して欲しいぞ!

    • Japarta says:

      こんにちわ、Tokyo Popさん

      ありがとうございます。
      フィニはちょっと謙遜してそう言ったのかもしれません。
      いずれにしても、我々日本人よりも英語を学ぶモチベーションは高そうですね。

  3. Tokyo Pop says:

    Very interesting story!
    Oh,Viny is not good at English. As far as I know, Stella,Sonya and Ve are good speakers of English. Rena,of course! Well, Achan is continually saying that she is now trying to learn English hard.
    Viny will be a core member of JKT48 soon,so she need English especially when they “go international” So,study hard,Viny!

    • benimaru says:

      Viny still a highschooler.. Most of the member that already in college understood english since most university/ institute books in indonesia are english literature (mine have some that still in dutch language..)

      Unless you’re attending additional english course, intl highschool, have a foreign descendacy, or your parents intend to use foreign language as a daily language, you will not be a fluent foreign language speaker in such young age..

      • Tokyo Pop says:

        OK,thank you for the input.

      • Angga says:

        Well, I really think it depends on the person rather than the education or one grade itself. Yours truly here is an example of no course-educated English and no foreign blood at all :lol:

        As for Viny, her interest in post-modern art and music could help her English very well. There are tons of English books out there about music and arts that she could use as a start for vocabulary gathering. The rest will fall on her environment. How she could take a good use of her environment to practice conversing (Hint: Ve..Ve..Ve..) and never to worry about grammar..

        …Well…worry about it a little bit, don’t ended up like the grammar-blind me :lol: .

        [On the other hand, I could say my pronunciation is not that good either, just ask Richardson :lol: . Well, at least I know how to conversing passively]

      • Japarta says:

        Hello, benimaru-san.

        Thanks.
        Oh, it’s almost same as in Japan, but we Japanese are basically shy to speak in English.
        That’s one of our weak point…
        Hahaha

    • aruppa says:

      For Indonesian high-schooler, it’s harder to comprehend the spoken one to written one. Most of the girl can read English, about more than half of of them also can write more complex sentences, and just a few girls can produce it verbally. So, if you are in doubt about will they get your words or not (and you think what are you going to tell is important), just write them in A4 paper and let them read your message in handshake.
      Lidya also good. She said that she watched ton of English-spoken cartoon since she was 4 y/o.

      • Japarta says:

        Hi, aruppa-san,

        The important thing is to be exposed to English aggressively, right?

        I hope Japanese guys post more comments here aggressively…
        Hahaha

    • Japarta says:

      Hello, Tokyo pop-san,

      Thanks for your message.
      Viny may be modest about her English.
      Anyway, I think Indonesian people’s motivation for learning English is higher than us, Japanese people…

    • A(s)ce says:

      Hi, guys. I’m a Japanese and I met Viny three times at RIVER handshake event and I talked by English… So, it might be me.

      But if Viny was only nodding a head to me during handshaking, I would be heart-broken at my 2nd handshake and then I run away from FX building without 3rd handshake.

      Her English was not bad. It looks she thought her own English level was poor based on her perspective about conversation. But Viny could answer to my questions and she also asked some questions to me. Moreover, she asked my name and she called my real name, ****-san, ever after.

      It was a happening for her, but it was very good happening to me because I really enjoyed three handshake with Viny.

      After the handshake event, I went to the theater and watched KKS’s “Boku no Taiyou”. During handshake session, Viny smiled and made eye contact with me and then she said “Hi, ****-san!! I remember you and your name!”.

      HAHAHA. Good happening, isn’t it?

      I say again, her English was not bad. I think that she just needs practice to talk with foreigners.

      • Angga says:

        ^
        This. Haha. Thanks A(s)ce for the info!

        So perhaps Viny was good at passive English already and just needed some exposure to conversation :D

      • Japarta says:

        Hello, A(s)ce-san!
        Thank you for your comment.

        Oh, you shook hands with Viny 3times, it means you used 3 tickets
        but one by one.
        waaaaa, why didn’t you tell me that way in advance… Hahaha

        Regarding to Viny, as written in my article, she said “he talked hard to Viny in Japanese and English”.
        I myself am not sure it was you or not, but if my expression was not enough, I’m sorry…

        • A(s)ce says:

          Hi, Japarta-san!

          Please don’t say “sorry”. I enjoyed your report!
          I’m also not sure Viny mentioned me or other Japanese guy.

          Anyway, I think that if we have multiple tickets for a particular member, we should use for one ticket each. By meeting repeatedly in a short time, the member can recognize us and becomes more friendly. Maybe, the member will say “hey! you come again? :D “.
          It’s my opinion :))

          Sorry for writing in Japanese.
          現状では、握手会の秒数ルールが徹底してないので、一度に全部出すのは勿体ないです。
          1枚しか出して無くても30秒以上話せる時もあるし、複数枚出してもそれ掛ける秒数になってない事もあるようですし。
          1枚出しにすれば、その枚数分かならず握手できるし、秒数も得する事はあっても損はしませんw

      • Buddy says:

        This is just my opinion but i don’t think Viny talking about you A(s)ce san. This is the reason : :idea:

        1. In the article Viny say she met a Japanese guy who talked hard to her in Japanese and English. That means that he is fans from Japan who is not very good at english language. He talking to Viny by combining english and japanese languange so that what make Viny don’t understand. You say that you talk using english and i think your english not that bad based on what i see on your comment.
        2. On your comment, you say Viny could answer to your questions and she also asked some questions to you. That’s mean Viny understand simple daily conversation in english like “what is your name, where do you come from, nice to meet you”. So if Viny can’t answer your question the conversation will end/stop at that time and you will understand that she don’t understand what you trying to say. I think that person is trying to say something to Viny using words that people don’t ussually use in daily activity which mean he use vocabulary words so that the other reason why Viny don’t understand it.

        The point
        Viny not talking about you, so don’t worry A(s)ce san. For other fans who also think “it might be me”. I think Viny just want to make your 10 seconds time with her worth. Imagine if she say “sorry, I don’t understand what you talking about” I’m sure you will feel disappointed. Viny don’t want to hurt your feeling so she keep smiling , listening every words from you, and trying to understand what you want to say to her even though she couldn’t understand it in the end . The problem is because fans only have 10 seconds time for each ticket so they have to talk very fast and in that situation sometimes the way fans spelling/saying the words it’s very bad. So i think it’s normal if some member hard to understand what fans trying to say.

        The point
        Viny not talking about you, so don’t worry A(s)ce san. For other fans who also think “it might be me”. I think Viny just want to make your 10 seconds time with her worth. Imagine if she say “sorry, I don’t understand what you talking about” I’m sure you will feel disappointed. Viny don’t want to hurt your feeling so she keep smiling , pay attention to you, listening every words from you, and trying to understand what you want to say even though she couldn’t understand it in the end . The problem is because fans only have 10 seconds time for each ticket so they have to talk very fast and sometimes the way fans spelling/saying the words it’s very bad so i think it’s natural thing if some member hard to understand what fans trying to say in that situation. Just be positive guys and keep supporting Viny if she is your favorite member. :mrgreen:

        • A(s)ce says:

          Hi, Buddy-san!

          Thank you for advising me :)
          I don’t worry and I don’t think that Viny exposed Japanese guy at the theater show for getting a laugh.
          I really enjoyed handshaking with Viny because security person had forgiven 30 seconds or more for only one ticket. I don’t know exact reason, but 1st session of the handshake event was pretty empty. So I couldn’t care much about remaining time and I could talk to Viny at an easy pace.
          I was lucky :)

          • Buddy says:

            I’m glad you understand A(s)he san. :) I think what make JKT48 member different from other is because they don’t behave like idol even though they are idol. They may not be perfect and can do many mistake like falling while perform in stage, make mistake while singing and can do other stupid thing but many people still care and supporting them. It’s because people love their true personality not their idol personality. :wink: They share story about their activity, what they thinking, what they do that day and many more in the theater. It’s like daily conversation between friends, father and daughter, brother and sister. Same like other member, Viny just want to share story about her experience in handshake event that day and she doesn’t mean to hurt other people. You very lucky to get 30 seconds time A(s)he san. Maybe he give you more time because Viny line pretty empty or not so crowded at that time. :mrgreen:

  4. Tazawa Kenzi says:

    良いレポートですね、読んでいて楽しめました
    そろそろチームK3を作って、チームJのメンバーをチーム替えして
    研究生からJ及びK3に昇格させる時期かなと思います。

    • Japarta says:

      Tazawaさん

      ありがとうございます。
      同意です。もうその時期でもいいと思いました。

      まだ僕の太陽公演に出ていなかったメンが最近デビューしたと聞きました。
      全員が僕の太陽デビューを済ませたらうれしいです。

  5. WasshoiJ says:

    Boku no taiyou stage is so fun^^
    I am glad you have watched it too and enjoyed it
    Its right their MC is getting better but I had wish you can see team J too because their MC is about a level higher
    Come back again!

  6. Djt says:

    Hahaha well right now i’m addicted to boku no taiyou ^^ viny is really is an idol… Btw about kks, kks have a problem, between their first team and second team. What you saw on 2 june is first team minus hanna and kariin. I once watch they perform without their 3 aces (viny, yupi, rona) + some other first team (natalia and naomi) and it was a bad performance… The level gap is too much. The second team must train harder so they can match the first team :)

    • Japarta says:

      Hello, Djt-san!

      Oh, is it?
      Anyway I heard that the members who seldom performed Boku No Taiyo before
      started to often appear now.
      I hope they have already improved themselves too.