The Road to Team K
by Angga · March 22, 2013

Ah…trainees. I can’t imagine how I stepped out of my shell and comfort zone to travel miles to f(X) just for the sake of seeing the trainees with my own very eyes and verified whether my image about them is true or not.
It was all started when djt wrote a review about the trainees performance in which I totally have some different opinions based on when I saw them via TV shows. I want to write that exact different opinions on a different article with research result that I’ve got from asking some friends over at 2ch with Tokyo Pop help (which going to be another “What They Say” segment story). But then I realized that it will not be fair if I just go straight writing my opinions without proving it with my own eyes at the sacred ground itself, the theater.
And thus, I went there together with Japarta who suddenly came to Indonesia in between his work (Yeeehaw! I met ya at last! And boy oh boy your Bahasa is awesome!). And us, in a rushed manner; went to the theater with all the complicated feelings we have towards the trainees.
ああ、・・・研究生。彼女たちに抱いている自分のイメージが正しいか否かをこの目で確認するだけのために、居心地の良い自分のねぐらから這い出して、はるばるf(X)まで来ることになろうとは。
発端は、djtさんが書いた研究生の記事について、自分がTVショーで見た限りでの意見ではあるが、相違を覚えたことに始まる。それで色々リサーチをした上で違った観点から記事を書こうと思い立ち、TokyoPopさんの助力で2chで意見を聴いてみたりもした(これは後日また違う記事にしようと思う)しかし、自分自身の目で神聖なる場所、つまり劇場に足を運ばずしてこれを語ることはフェアではないと考えるに至ったのだ。
ということで私は、出張の間を縫って思いがけなく訪ねて来てくれたJapartaさんと一緒に劇場へ行くことにしたのだ(ヤッホー!ついにあなたに会えた!なんともまあ、あなたのインドネシア語はすごい!※訳注:Japartaさんは2ch本スレで“翻訳さん”とか“イ語さん”とか呼ばれています)そして、我々は取る物も取り敢えず、研究生への様々な感情を胸に劇場に向ったのだ。
Before we start, let me show you how I feel about the girls before I watched them in the theater via an email I sent to Tokyo Pop a few weeks ago :
I’m still in the learning phase of the trainees team and I have to be honest -if not harsh- that my impression about some of them currently is..”Auraless.” But I hope as the time goes by, each and every one of them will have this “Aura” that their seniors in team J have. Something that can’t be measured by appearance, performance, nature and skill development alone. Something that they will acquire sooner or later with times.
That is how I feel after watching them in TV. And tonight what I feel is…this..
They managed to surprised me a little bit as I can somehow able to distinguished some performers based on how they interpret the song with their movement, hand gesture and expression. Their dance is good enough albeit with some little accidents like misstep or body-clashing each others. Their expression? Top notch. But..
The MC session is God Awful! It looks awkward and some tried so hard to be funny. Novinta nailed her part as a robber but that is as far as she could get me interested in the whole facade. Della’s new nickname triggered by Vieny helped me cure my bore. But most of them is awkward and able to make the grand opening that blows me apart into some mediocre show in the middle. It was like a glued chair torture for me every time the horrendous MC session starts.
The lack of characters didn’t help the show either. They need to build a character of their own, a story of their own as their J counterpart mainly have. Delve deeper and see, what characteristic that will make you easily distinguishable from the others? Not physically nor hobby, but an “Aura” of your own. Find it and I believe the girls will blows everyone minds away.
I believe time will help mend the girls into idols with the so-called “aura”. Remember how chilling Melody’s presence in Kuroi Tenshi is? it took her more than a year to achieve that. Give the trainees more time and more chances to experiment themselves and we will soon see.
The show was then closed with a special video screening depicting the girls trying their hardest to compelled to the fans criticism and encouraged fans to write a thing or two and put them into the suggestion box available at the theater entrance. It was titled : The Road to Team K
When it came to the handshake session, I tried to give them suggestions and encouragement to find their own characteristic. Hope they will not think of me as a douche trying to mock their efforts. They did their best tonight and that is not something I could even do. If only they did the MC better, then today mediocre show will be somehow a little bit fantastic show although comparing them to Team J and its core members is not yet foreseeable in the near future and way too far fetched.
Maybe today was just not my day and thus I have different views compared with djt’s one. But either way, these girls are not playing spoiled, they did their best and it is our job to support them in anyway we can. I noticed a lot of empty seat tonight and some on my left row leave the show even before it ends and that is just not good, the girls need us.
Japarta might have different views compared with me. Proves that the “aura” facade was all came back to how you judge their performance. A personal preference and opinions on top of anything
まず最初に、この目で研究生を見る以前の彼女たちに対する私の評価を書いておきたい。これは数週間前にTokyo Popに送ったメールの内容である。
研究生チームについては、まだ私も勉強中という感じです。きつい事をいうつもりはないですが、私の印象では正直みんなまだオーラが足りないように思います。これから先輩のチームJのように少しづつ自分のオーラを身につけて欲しいと思います。これは見た目とか、パフォーマンス力とか、性格とかテクニックとはまた違うものなんだと気づいて習得していってくれるでしょう
以上が、私がTVで見ていた限りの彼女たちの印象である。そして、今夜私が感じたことは・・・これだ。
彼女たちは私を少々驚かせた。というのも、何人かのメンバーの、体の動きや手先のジェスチャーなどは、ともかくも歌をよく体現していることに気づいたからだ。ダンスについても、ステップミスや体がぶつかるなどの小さなアクシデントはあったものの、総じて出来の良いものだった。表現力はどうかって?まずは一流の域に達している、しかし・・・
MCセッションは悲惨だった!ギクシャクしていて何人かは無理に笑いをとろうと苦心惨憺していた。ノフィンタは、自分の持ち時間を頑張って務めていたが、上すべり気味で私の興味を引くには程遠かった。フィニィが始めたデラの新しいニックネームの話は私の退屈を少し和らげてくれた。全体としてぎごちなく、幕開けはなかなか良いと思ったが、中盤になると可もなく不可もなくのショーになってしまった。いわく言い難いMCセッションが始まる度に、私は椅子に縛り付けられて折檻を受けているような気がしたものだ。
キャラクター力不足も課題だ。先輩のチームJが確立している自分のキャラクターや物語を、彼女たちもつくり上げる必要がある。考えてみるに、キャラが立つとはどういうことなんだろう?それはフィジカルの良し悪しや、得手不得手とかいうことではなくて、自分が醸し出す“オーラ”のことだ。それを手にしたならもうこっちのものだ。
彼女たちは今後時が経つにつれて、いわゆる“オーラ”のあるアイドルに成長していくだろう。黒い天使でのメロディのあのチリチリする存在感を見ただろうか。彼女はあの境地に至るまで一年以上を費やした。研究生にはもうしばらく経験を積む時間とチャンスを与えようではないか。我々は遠からずその成果を見ることになるだろう。
最後は、スクリーンに研究生がファンの意見に接している姿が映り、今後もファンは彼女たちに対する自分の意見を劇場入口の意見箱に投函して欲しいという内容のスペシャルビデオで公演は終わった。そのタイトルは「チームKへの道」であった。
握手会で私は、彼女たちに自分のキャラクターを早く見つけて欲しいとアドバイスと激励の言葉をかけた。彼女たちが私のことを、他人の苦労を知りもしないでいい加減なことを言う馬鹿野郎だと思わないでいてくれることを願う。今夜彼女たちは全力を出し切った。なかなか出来ないことだ。チームJと比べると中核のメンバーでさえまだまだとは言え、もしMCセッションさえもうちょっとましだったなら、この凡庸なショーもまだ少しはファンタスティックなものになっただろう。
まあ、今日は私にはちょっと運のない日だったのだろう。djtさんとはまた違った感想を持つことになったわけだけれど、しかしいずれにしろ、彼女たちはベストを尽くした。ともかく我々の仕事は彼女たちを出来る限り応援することだ。今夜は空席も目立ったし、私の左側の誰かは終演前に出て行った。なんたることだ。彼女たちには我々が必要だというのに。
Japartaさんは私とはまた違った感想を持ったかもしれない。“オーラ”がある無しの評価は、ひとえに彼女たちのパフォーマンスをどう評価するかにかかってくる。個人的な好みと評価が何より先にたつということだ。
Credits to Japarta. Have a safe flight back to Japan mate!
Japartaさんへ:帰途どうぞ気をつけて!
Japanese Translation by Tokyo Pop
maybe, just maybe,
you had certain amount of expectation and they failed you, thus the show seems less aura-ful like you wished. or maybe you had this thing called “they-are-the-trainees-afterall-so-i-set-my-standard-to-how-i-felt-when-i-watched-the-first-pajama-drive” that people usually have.
for me, what i learn from a handful tickets of Pajama Drive v.2 is their show is different. they have different aura, they joke about different thing, and they, of course, have a different approach to their expression when on stage. it took me a couple of shows though, to get that feeling.
or maybe this was just an irritated post because now i like them so much and i hate to think that some ugly teenagers is talking shit like “trainees are nothing like the godly team J”.
i don’t know. nothing good happens after 2 A.M.
To be honest, I set my expectation as low as I could. Look up to the quoted remarks
And I get what I need, a mind blowing entrance and start compared to my expectation. Unfortunately it was marred by the horror the MC session gave me.
There’s an X factor when a performer performing on stage, and unfortunately it was hard for me to see that tonight. Something that made me “clicked!”. I’ll see them again in the future, perhaps another 6 months to see how far have they developed that X factor.
And if you like them, that’s good! That is what would help the girls develop themselves more.
The “Godly” team J -as your own remark I quote- need a year to established themselves. That ain’t too “Godly” whatsoever as God(s?) only need seven days for whatever He created
believe me, i understand completely about the mc session. i’ve been watched the best and the worst of them. the problem, perhaps, is because sometimes they got carried away talking some inside thing/inside joke, because as far as i can tell, they mostly watched by the regulars (who knew the girls inside and out quite well). oh, and the topics. the girls can be very entertaining, i won’t lie about that.
me, for instance, start to watch them on weekly basis without the need for verification e-mail. as you mentioned above, some seats remain empty, which pointed out the obvious fact. that is, to me, is trainees biggest challenge; to spread their wings and expand their market. they need to see the bigger picture. they have to realize that their fans that visit regularly may grow bored, or tired, or busy, or else.
.. and that godly part is just something i overheard somewhere, by a guy whom i believe is a very deeply hardcore fans of team J and trying to be exclusive about them. sad.
nb: tacil lucu ya.
Yep, and that’s the point of the X factor/aura/whatever came in. They need to make sure that any newcomer that is in the attendance to feel that “Click!” in just one single show to turn them into regulars. There ain’t much bighearted people like you that willing to give the girls many chances.
Hopefully they will be able to do that in a year timeline. I put my faith in those talented and hard working girls.
well i tihnk i should agree with rio, as a fans of 48 fam, we should give the girl many chances since the concept itself is grow with the fans. if fans can’t accept or give them many chances then that fans is not yet a 48 fam fans. of course they not perfect, if they already perfect they not idol group but girl band ^^; to me as long as they already give the best at stage then I can accept it. some time why i adore the kks more than team J is, the kks always give all ther power in every songs. while team J sometime get lazy. but since i already get charmed by team J, so i forgive them
but maybe i should note on Angga point also, the kks should be perform her best when the crowd is big. so they can be regulars fans. regarding aura …. well… TBH team J face is prettier then kks
Melody compare to Vinny, no contest melody face is better, shanju face compare to Ayen face, again shanju wins, team J got pure japanese Rena, kks got uh well … even they don’t have the kw one(Ayana) XD no kks member as elegant as ve, stella, and sonya. and from the beginning that 3 already elegant. ok next kks doesn’t have a bishonen while team J got ghaida …. girls love ghaida ^^; ok what next ??? hmmm team J got trio loli Cigul, wawa, ayana.. team J got a dangdut singer Sendy XD so on..
compare to “already great from the beginning” team J tbh what kks achieve so far is already ok lah. and except for MC sometimes they already perform better than team J best, regarding Aura etc, well they still need more experience in entertainment business. the only kks member that i already see the aura is Rona, Viny, Della, and Yupi. i hope soon i will see the aura things on Yona, sinka, Ikha, tacil, nat, uty, and all of them ^^
Yes, that’s the point
. Truth to be told, we brought along a non-fans and just getting interested friend of us to the theater that night. And the show doesn’t give her a lasting impression unfortunately aside from the screaming like mad teenagers standing right behind us in the MC session which is very very annoying 
Yap you right, ytd is not a good show, i’m not too impress too… well it’s always when octi on stage, they will move Rona pos to pajadora blue ^^; Rona not on that position for long time(when shonichi song, i almost think she’s not coming coz i see octi on her usual pos) , and guess what, she often miss position, specially on group song. well it’s also happen in team J if some of them change position. also uty is not in a good health.
regarding aura …. the one things that team J already have is most of team J is already knew about show biz compare to this kks, so they already have a different “confidence” level. for MC, this is the main weakness of kks, but again this is because they merely just 3 month together, compare to team J that already together 9 month before they start their own theater …. if you want to compare, try to compare when team J do “mc-ing” in OVJ. look how shanju can’t say anything there, or look when melody’s there is shanju bad, is melody bad ? no shanju just not familiar with nunung, while melody also not familiar with people arround her at that time…not all people like nabila. so for kks hopefully the more they together, the more they can feel like a family, and to make them have a confidence level there’s no other things than to support them ^^ and now is the perfect timing.
don’t just give your love to team J, try to share it the kks, of course you can also give a bad comment “as a support” but make sure that “bad comment” you put on the suggestion box, well i realy did that, i tell vinny that the only perform that i can’t enjoy is temodemo
but it’s true, temo demo is the worst, because the 2 performers can’t work together… lol it’s look like that i just write an article XD
btw do you know what ? every time the theater is full of audience, the kks do more mistake then if not full… here my analysis(maybe right or wrong), they don’t have enough confidence yet to perform in front off big audience, they got “demam panggung” contrary with team J that will have more power when the audience is full, why ? because team J is start with big audience, they use to it. while kks use to perform in small audience. ok that’s it ^^
There’s this whole different meaning if it wasn’t on their own turf thus rendering it incomparable. And the gap of time between those two team also making it incomparable even on their own turf
The purpose of team J on this article is not to compare between those two team but rather as a benchmark for the trainees to aim to and also a benchmark of time that those girls probably need to be able to achieve what their predecessor already did in more than a year time frame
Ah i forget to say this. Sorry if my article make you all the way cam to the “sanctuary”

btw i think you should sometimes watch their show la ^^ once a month as a JKT48 fans
If only I have the time mate, if only I have the time
To think of that, i feel really lucky that my home and office is near fx hahaha, i even can come everyday to fx, just for lunch or dinner after office hr…
Man, you’re the luckiest guy on the planet.
^easy to say
im a universuty student, this year on my thesis, and all the money i have just for this.
I hope that soon i got a well job and soon could support them.
*curhatdikit
^well if you want to enjoy better watch team J, well at least you already know them. But if love surprises and more imprtant you want to support jkt48 member, then go spent your money on kks. Because today team j not need your support. Without you watching, the theater is already full. While kks you don’t even email, just go to fx then you can buy the wl ticket and still got seat. Except maybe for certain event like ace of kks bday like ytd
^i prefer try both though
. since i never go there. but maybe, when the time come, team K is already formed.
by the way, what happens to those who are not elected? still be a “ban serep”/Mbekden??
Oh maaan, I think either Team J or KKS deserved the same portion of our support and love. They had struggled enough. All of them, undisputably. Don’t say KKS just following Team J’s legacy, because the truth is both of them just following AKB’s. And don’t be too radical too, like treated some of them as a God (God? What God? Man, it’s a blasphemy in this country) and try to divide your support and love for each of them evenly. Agree? (Do I look like a socialist? Hope not.)
NO!!! KKS don’t deserve same portion. Treated like a God? Haha
only for those K-poop imposter group.
It is not often, but I agree with Herman this time actually
Well, honestly, I can say that I felt the same way when watching trainee’s performance for the first time. In terms of dance abilities and moves, KKS is just an inch to team J. However, when it comes to other ‘factor’ (which I couldn’t really identify), they are still a long way to go.
I may only watched them once and every statement I made here may not going to be very significant comparing to other fans who’ve watched their performance dozens of times. However, being honest, trainee members really had to show their original personality, so that the so-called aura can appear from within them. So far, I only see Yona, Rona, Novinta, Yuppi, Viny and Ayen who had this kind of ‘spark’, but not in other members yet.
However, I disagree with those who said that KKS are only following their seniors and only using team J’s popularity. Isn’t it the same with the 1st generation members during their first year, being accused of only manipulating AKB’s popularity? Now, team J (and thus JKT48) had gone away from AKB48’s shadow, and successfully painted their own image as ‘uniquely Indonesian 48 group’. And for KKS to get away from J’s shadow is only a matter of time.
Still had a lot to say, but I guess I’ll have to stop it here. Sorry if anyone felt offended by my opinion.
Correction: Rona and Ayen are the same. My bad
Yes, that certain special “factor” that they need to dig deeper. As for dance and everything, the teachers such as Gitcha and Annisa has done a tremendous job forming them in just mere months. JOT is really lucky to have them on their team.
Thanks for your review. I have skimmed it though
It’s been a while for me to catch up with the second generation performances
I watched their theatre performances on weekly basis. At first, I had never skipped their daily theatre, unfortunately I should go overseas for couple weeks.
I keep my eyes on their progress.
And I bet they have an impressive progress since their shonichi
There are a lot of improvement in their performances
I couldn’t imagine that I could finally enjoy Kimi no koto ga performances ever since it was sung by the first generation
They put their whole energy and they are pretty much expressive.
I could say that they bring me a different excitement of performances
They have their own standard and now they are moving forward
In my opinion, their gomenne summer performance is better than the first generation
I couldn’t explain on why this come up into my argument but you could simply see it on the theatre
For the MC parts, I do enjoy their childishness. It’s not that they couldn’t show up their aura. But it’s that their childishness are their own aura.
Probably I have quite different opinions. But I hope everyone could enjoy trainees theatre and could help them to make more progress onwards
Ah Kimi no koto, yesterday they sung that song and it was amazing. It was the saving grace moment after that MC session that could made me smile all over again
check their schedule for 24 march..
will JOT send gen 2 for RCTI event?

From the info i’ve got yes, they’ll perform too and some say they’ll perform in noon session which will start from 13.00 , while team J who have a theater schedule at 16.00, will perform in morning session which will start at 07.30
me thought 07:30 is the time for doraemon?
so from 07:30 till dusk, it will all about dahsyat?
apa cuman gw disini yang nongkrongin dahsyat buat liat JKT48 perform
Just got an update for dahsyat from twitter so apparently JKT will perform all day, the schedule as follows
Morning Session (09.00-11.00) -> Team J & Trainee
Afternoon Session (13.00-16.00)->Trainee
Night Session (22.00-00.30) ->Possibility Team J
I was so surprised to see the original JKT48 members performance, “Oogoe Diamond”. What the power and the expression they have!!! Especially “Suka” repeated part “Suki da”. How can the original obtain those great talent? From their over 1 year perseverance? Probably anyway, the original finished their great masterpiece. And more the original will go toward their next steps and the more next steps. Contrary, KKS. I think they have been playing around the original broke fresh. There is not any tensions that the original has. I suppose that KKS has been pampered. Please remenber the KKS’s audition process. From the 1st, RCTI covered and made merry. How about the original audition? That audition was held solemnly, from my memories. The one point that I would like to say. I suppose that there would not be any tensions among KKS enviroment. If I say to much, please kindly advise me. THKS:)
As a matter of fact, that overblown audition process could play a part too as you said
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Yesterday at the special video screening, there’s a depiction of the girls trying hard to solve the criticism they get. I don’t know if it was scripted or not, but it shows that they’re no longer the pampered girls we used to think :D. They deserves more recognition for their works, it is just that…that certain special factor that I still couldn’t see up until now.
You can wait the kks till 1 year then
Just fyi, the first gen member mostly already know show biz before they join jkt, another point is some of first gen is not apply, but the management come to them and offer her to join jkt48, Melody and beby is some of them. The source for melody is from kinal interview, while for beby is on ogb that said the management come to her dance school and offer her to join.
For gen 2 mostly is jkt48 or akb48 or anime fangirl. And judging from their face, they still green in show biz world(imo, maybe i’m wrong because i have no source just pure analisyst). So its your chooice to support the gen 2 by keep give them critics or just abandon them as if they never exist.
Today i watch kks show, night one. They celebrate ikha bday and give us hebirote as a bonus songs.
just when gen 2 have the chance to perform live..
they made this “split screen” thingy that turns into a tiny weeny view..
well, at least me can watch Aki and Sonya perform (even only for a brief moment..)
apa cuman gw disini yang nongkrongin dahsyat buat liat JKT48 perform
I hope my topic would refer to the current situation of KKS. Recently. among Japanese 48 fans, HKT48 has been spotted light. Because they say “HKT48 has “Biri Biri Kan (literally,electric ouch tention? Please laugh, if my translation is funny) hereafter BBK”. And more, HKT48 seems like the early part of AKB. Probably those fans want to say that AKB has already got into the stabilized status. AKB won 6 (?) million single hits. This result is the great and huge thing. But also, at the same time, those fans think the popularity of AKB48 has been saturated. So they think that they can’t enjoy the strong and stimulative experiences. I hope KKS of JKT48 have “BBK” like HKT48:) Because if KKS has “BBK”, they will go so far from this leisurely progress. Did I critisize KKS again?
I am a new fan of HKT48 , but seeing their performances from LOD in video-hosting sites, I feel something different, I think they’re good, and fresh.and I love Natsu >.<
Not like Team J, the trainees came from much more different places. They have different native languages, culture, habits, etc. It’s not easy to them to blend in short time, of course. Not to mention they have different characters and a large number of members. They need some times to know each other, what kind of jokes they can share together, etc.
I’m sure they’re capable to overcome it (right, girls?) and..get ready for the next level.
I saw “Manatsu no Kajitsu” by KKS. They were shining. Totaly I was wrong. They are great. Not pampared.