Special Show April 22nd 2013 Report

Angga

Just another lazy author for JKT48Stuff whom mainly working with translations and sometimes writing articles about JKT48 with an obvious grammar problem. Was living his life as a JKT48 DD until...

27 Responses

  1. benimaru says:

    Just curious, what is jot parameter when choosing the senbatsus? :?:

    And what about their performance on this river song?

    • HERMAN says:

      The parameter could be “The prettier the better.” (In JOT point of view, of course) About their performance, I’m hoping they will be as cool as, or even more than SNH’s.

      • Tomo says:

        Did Kinal shout the 1st part such as “JKTTTTTTTTTTTTTT forty eight!”? How was their stump? Did Melo perform as Atsuko Maeda’s role? I’m so curious:)

        • KageTora says:

          From what I recall about their positions from some source I can’t remember :
          Takamina – Kinal, Acchan – Melody, Jurina – Nabilah, Mayuyu – Rena, Yuuko(/Mariko?) – Akicha …
          Plz CMIIW

          • Tomo says:

            Understandable. So did JOT announce they produce the 2nd (the 1st was “Hevi Rote” when their debut) MV of JKT48 as “River”? There are so many diffrent news in the Japanese fandom. It cannot to be clarified for me. If you cam, advise me.

      • Andricks says:

        The prettier the better in JOT point of view? From where did you get this prejudice bro? I don’t agree with you. I have 3 fav members who’s not elected to be part of senbatsu, and I’m sure it has nothing to do with their look.

        • HERMAN says:

          Just kidding brother. That was my joke to annoy my bro Benimaru-san (Who was participated in King of Fighters). And the truth is: Yeah, ALL of them are damn beautiful as if they are Sailormoon’s new member. So, i’m sure as hell it had nothing to do with their look.

          • benimaru says:

            if there is a dude that dare to say one of those girls is ugly, there is a few probability; either that dude is gay, blind, or a complete dope..

    • indr@ says:

      I’m afraid the answer for that question is a mystery :wink:

      Last year for Heavy Rotation PV, JOT also choose 16 members, and no one know about the parameter. Members that get highlights and more screen time in the first PV are Melody, Nabilah, Shanju, and Cleo.

      It’s interesting to see that Rica, Delima, and Gaby are selected for River PV, because if I’m not mistaken in Hebirote PV they were not selected. From many theater reports thay I read recently, apparently those 3 are the members that improve the most. It means their hardwork all these year is paid-off. Good job girls :-o

  2. HERMAN says:

    What?? Senbatsu? Was that for real? Was that THE Senbatsu as in they held in Japan? Or a local Senbatsu, perhaps? Man, JOT should give more devoted explanation about this. As a deterrent from more confusing chaos amidst fanbase. And maybe JOT also should use the Indonesian term for Senbatsu, such as “Pemilihan Umum” or “Nyoblos” , I suppose? Because, did JOT know there are a lot of our fine gentlemen (read: newbie fans, karbitan fans, zombies or whatever) who even didn’t know what Senbatsu is?

    And one more thing. When it happens, to participate In Senbatsu, we have to vote, yes? So, the question is: “How?” Do we all have to buy a copy or more (“more” here means a hell lot of) of their new single (which won’t be cheap) for having the right to vote? Oh Sh*t , man! I think I’m gonna bankrupt for the sake of my oshii. Have to look fo’ mo’ money…….soon…..

    • KageTora says:

      You, my friend, would better learn more about the differences between Senbatsu, Senbatsu Sousenkyo, Senbatsu Janken Taikai … There are many Indonesian fansite out there that explain it clearly … :facepalm:

    • ganyabubrown says:

      cmiiw,

      senbatsu is the selected member to promote the single (they are members who will appear in PV or MV of that single and cover album), and its all management decision who will be the senbatsu member of a single, except senbatsu sousenkyo and senbatsu janken takai (like kagetora said). Sousenkyo refers to general election or “pemilihan umum”, that means (imo) senbatsu sousenkyo is a general election to vote/choose which member will be the senbatsu member. Then, janken takai refers to paper-scissor-rock tournament, that means senbatsu janken takai means (imo) a paper-scissor-rock tournament to choose which member will be the senbatsu member of a single (they usually called janken single, like eien pressure, ue kara mariko, and chance no junban).

      the number of senbatsu members is also managements decision, it could be 7 (like gomen ne summer), 16 (mostly single) , 18 (like give me five, kaze wa fuiteiru), 21 (like flying get, hebirote), 26 (like ebikachu) or even 36 ( like manatsu no sounds good). but when they perform it on TV show, management usually just took 16 members.

      *errrr, actually i’m not really sure which is literally true since i didn’t know japanese, is it senbatsu sousenkyo means the general election to choose senbatsu, or a senbatsu result of general election?
      *sorry for my bad english

    • HERMAN says:

      Well, I had already learnt. And looks like I had a mispronunciation between senbatsu elected member and senbatsu sousenkyo. For that, i apologize. I suppose that because my zombie friend always mentioned senbatsu sousenkyo simply as “senbatsu”, which means “election”. (Damn him! May he go to hell along with his false information). And yes, i thought it was a senbatsu sousenkyo because my logic told me there won’t be any senbatsu member if there isn’t a senbatsu sousenkyo, yes? As in, there won’t be a president if there isn’t a general election, right?

      However, i still don’t know, though. They never mentioned anything about whether it has the same rules or not if it is held outside of Japan. Fortunately in this “Senbatsu Sousenkyo” we don’t have to vote. JOT had been generous enough to do it for us. That means my money is save…..for now.

      Look, i know my knowledge isn’t the best. Even my Japanese never gets better since high school. But please, maybe it just hurts your eyes. However don’t get upset and fell free to correct me if i did some stupid mistakes like before. Because that’s the point of this site, i presume. People who knew tell other people who didn’t. Okay brother? Cool?

      • KageTora says:

        Nah, no problem bro… we made mistakes, and we might still will… I might be wrong in trying to explain this too, so if anyone here care to help me improve myself, don’t hesitate to correct me

        Senbatsu is the line-up of performer, the end result of a selection process. The process it self is determined by producer / management before another form of process – Sousenkyo that involve fans’ vote and Janken Taikai that rely solely on luck – take places.

        So basically we have this 16 members as JKT48 River Senbatsu members. They are the first officially announced Senbatsu – there might also be other unannounced Senbatsu for other songs : JKT48 Mirai no Kajitsu Senbatsu, JKT48 Gomen ne Summer Senbatsu, etc songs in the 1st Album.

        Unless this single include voting ballots for next single, none of us will be broke because of Sousenkyo. Yet, we might still be broke for Handshake ticket. Either way, we will still be broke… :lol:

        • Tomo says:

          Clear and simple explanation. “Sugoiii!” KageTora san. BTW how about “Gome Sama” senbatsu? We call is as “Gome Sama Senbatsu” in Japanese fandum. Are the members chosen by JOT performing “Gomen Ne Summer”? Isn’t it also “River” senbatsu? Oh…”Senbatsu” for next single CD and also new MV. That is the big diffrence from “Gome Sama” senbatsu?

          • KageTora says:

            Soon after “Gomen ne Summer” debuted on Dahsyat RCTI, there was this circulating notion around some of JKT48’s fans that similar to the concept of Senbatsu. This was sparked by the fact that 6 out of 7 members that filled the line-up was featured on Nylon Magazine earlier.

            Members that was featured on Nylon Magazine are Melody, Shania, Nabilah, Stella, Ve, Ayana and Ghaida. At that time, Ghaida’s physical condition prevented her to perform, so some fans speculated that Beby substituted her in Gome Sama debut. Some of them even went further by calling the 7 who were featured on Nylon magazine and supposedly filled Gome Sama line-up – if Ghaida was not absence – as JKT48 Kami 7.

            Of course, this notions is always debatable. Furthermore, around that point there were some changes in 1st generations’ constellation :
            1. Cleo’s graduation – she used to be one of the front girls with Melody and Shania. She was excluded from Gome Sama debut line-up. Some fans even suspected this was the one that sparked her to go into Graduation path.
            3. Ghaida’s sudden graduation announcement seems to contribute to her exclusion from current River Senbatsu.
            2. The presence of Akicha and Haruka – they haven’t yet effectively fill the line-up before RKJ Shonichi.

            IMHO, the only valid (and final) Senbatsu is the one featured in their Album/Single. That makes Gome Sama Senbatsu are Melody, Shania, Nabilah, Akicha, Ayana, Haruka and Sonia. Stella seems to become Akicha’s under since she also substituted her in Oogoe. CMIIW.

    • Shiba-sama says:

      Kagetora and Ganyabubrown did well explaining AKB48 Senbatsu Sousenkyo. Therefore I’ll just add few facts as the following:

      FACT 1.
      AKB48 Senbatsu Sousenkyo is the ONLY existing Senbatsu Sousenkyo which is held in order to decide the Senbatsu (the top 16 members) for AKB48 Sousenkyo single. PERIOD.
      Put simply, it’s NOT for deciding the members who’ll participate in SKE, NMB, HKT, JKT, or SNH own singles! There’s no such thing as SKE48 Senbatsu Sousenkyo or even JKT48 Senbatsu Sousenkyo. I hope that’s simple enough to understand.

      FACT 2.
      The newest (June 2013) AKB48 Senbatsu Sousenkyo in Nissan Stadium will be held in a “candidacy system” in which all of the members who meet one of three conditions are eligible to stand as a candidate:
      (1) The members in AKB48, SKE48, NMB48, and HKT48 (as of March 31, 2013),
      (2) Former AKB48 members who transferred to the sister groups in overseas (Takajo Aki, Nakagawa Haruka, Suzuki Mariya, Miyazawa Sae), aka Team Kaigai,
      (3) Former members who were a part of the AKB groups for more than 4 years in the past.

      Based on the 1st and 2nd facts above, we can conclude that NO members of JKT48 & SNH48, EXCEPT members of Team Kaigai, can participate in AKB48 Senbatsu Sousenkyo. Somehow, I believe that rule will apply to this year Janken Tournament Senbatsu too.

      The ONLY possibility of original members of JKT48 & SNH48 (non-Team Kaigai members) to participate in AKB48 single rests solely to the discretion and wisdom of AKB48 management (ONLY in Graduation or Summer or Common single aka non-Sousenkyo & non-Janken Tournament single). e.g: Melody in NEW SHIP song in GIVE ME FIVE! (Graduation) single.

      As for JKT48 own single (such as RIVER cover and the next after that), the Senbatsu selection is and will always be conducted based on JKT48 Operational Staff own discretion and wisdom plus, of course, not forgetting the consideration of JKT48 Project Staff (Aki-P and other AKS guys).
      That’s the only Senbatsu for you JKT48 fans (Unless you JKT48 fans want to unite and support Akicha in AKB48 Senbatsu Sousenkyo by voting for her).

  3. mm says:

    Thanks for the report!
    Unrelated but why do the Indonesians fans spell wota as vvota?

    • KageTora says:

      I don’t know, but to make it even more interesting, Indonesians used to pronounce V more closer to F than to W – which is clearly shown if you try to read katakana of these names : Devi Kinal Putri, Jessica Vania, Jessica Verranda

    • RedRanger48 says:

      It was started as a joke. JKT48 fans in Indonesia did not come from otaku background only. Most of them came from various background. One of the fans came up changing the word WOTA to VVOTA , since they look a lil bit same if we don’t look closely (W and VV). Another words slip in to the local fandom was #KEN666ERIAN *notice the 666* , xKGNxBGTx (from Kangen Banget, Really Miss You) , #DemiNyai (from Demi Nyai, free translated as For The Sake of Who I Loved), “Siapalah saya ini, hhe…” (originated from a prominent Indonesian twitter figure, free translated as “Who am I since I’m not worthy , lol”, saying that he(the fans) was an usual fans, whose support don’t reach his oshi).. well too many

    • PN03 says:

      my opinion is because “V””V”ota love to “V”ote anything about JKT48

  4. xzerozero says:

    maan.. it’s become OOT, but still nice to read your comment guys :lol: